Do Australian Guilds kinda suck? - Guild Wars Forums

Rieselle · Jun 12, 2005, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Hiya... I've been looking around the site for an Australian Guild to join, yet it seems they are all quite small, and many aren't that interested in GvG either.

It's their preference, but I'm a little dissappointed that so many people want a guild for "their identity", and thus there's a lot of little "friend's guilds" floating around. I would have preferred if most of the Australian guilds merged to form a largish guild of 60+ australian members or so... and planning to compete in the top 1000 or something... (if such a guild exists, please pm me!). It seems like most of the guilds I've joined generally have like 3-4 people on at any one night, of a wide level range so we can't play together.... it'd be nice if they had enough members to have at least a couple of full groups on during australian evening times most days, so I'd have a good chance of doing something with guildmates most of the time. Ah well. Maybe I need to work harder to entice my friends away from WoW...

Sarah Mengorran · Jun 12, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I agree.

I ended up forming a 'little friends guild' as you put it when i couldn't find a large dedicated aussie guild.

I'd be willing to join one (and bring my current members too) if you find one!

Id: Sarah Mengorran

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 12, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34

This may change over time. You have to realise that Guild Wars isn't as widely available over here in Australia as other countries (i.e. you either buy it from EB as an "exclusive" or you order it online) limiting the number of players. As you mentioned, WoW on the other hand has a much bigger following over here in Australia, and it'd be quite hard to vie them away from it. Especially if those gamers are MMORPG-purists (since GW isn't a "pure" MMORPG per se).

Personally, I like the idea of small guilds of friends - I've still yet to get any members (lol) but one day, I'd like to have a guild that is more of a community to have fun foremost with competition against other guilds coming secondary. However, my opinion might change, since I'm still playing through PvE.

A big elite PvP Australian guild would be nice and isn't unreasonable. However, if there was one, I wouldn't be interested. I prefer to lead guilds/clans rather than follow someone else.

Ascension · Jun 12, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

Did you ever consider forming an Australian group within an existing American/European guild? I'd love to have 60+ Australians/New Zealanders in my guild

Think of the possibilities ...

An Auzzie, a Canuk, and a Cowboy (Texan's rock, I have to say!) walk into a bar ...

I'm aiming for, one day, a massive group of people from every area of the earth. Some Australians would be MUCH welcomed. Contact me for details, as I have plenty to give!

May you see the light, and stay away from the darkness (!@#$ WoW!),

Ascension

Rieselle · Jun 13, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

Yeah, currently I'm in a multi-country guild, however Australians are spread too thinly to have many people to party with during australian evening hours.

As for the poster who preferred to lead his own guild, well, that's fine, but everyone wants to be leader and no-one member, which is why we have so many little "me too!" guilds

Then again - if I could find 10 or so friends who played at -exactly the same times- as me, then I wouldn't need a big guild either

Ascension · Jun 13, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26

You should see the hours some people pull in gaming, it's easy to match up with anyone!

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 13, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by Rieselle

Yeah, currently I'm in a multi-country guild, however Australians are spread too thinly to have many people to party with during australian evening hours.

As for the poster who preferred to lead his own guild, well, that's fine, but everyone wants to be leader and no-one member, which is why we have so many little "me too!" guilds

Then again - if I could find 10 or so friends who played at -exactly the same times- as me, then I wouldn't need a big guild either

True, I've just found everytime I've joined a guild or clan in internet gaming, there'd always be some people in the group that acted like knobs. I'm not saying all guilds/clans are like that, but it's rare to find one where you can get along well with almost everyone in it

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Rieselle · Jun 13, 2005, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by Marc Grahamsworth

True, I've just found everytime I've joined a guild or clan in internet gaming, there'd always be some people in the group that acted like knobs. I'm not saying all guilds/clans are like that, but it's rare to find one where you can get along well with almost everyone in it

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Heheh, I don't need to get along with everyone, as long as they're all reasonably proficient at playing the game, and listen to each other, then that's good enough for me

And if they aren't, well, any decent guild would kick them anyway :P

Lalii · Jun 13, 2005, 10:37 AM // 10:37

I have to agree with the fact that it's not easily available over here yet. I'm in a tiny guild that more of my friends will be joining once they get the game (once our city stops being sold out!) but until then it's kinda hard to find anyone else.

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 14, 2005, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by Lalii

I have to agree with the fact that it's not easily available over here yet. I'm in a tiny guild that more of my friends will be joining once they get the game (once our city stops being sold out!) but until then it's kinda hard to find anyone else.

If you're buying from EB, your friends could always tell them to reserve/order a copy for them and they'd be more than willing to do so

. Alternatively, there are online stores that sell Guild Wars as well (http://www.gamewarehouse.com.au is one of them), although considering GW is selling at 20% off at EB atm (i.e. AUD$72), it's probably best they get it from there

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Lalii · Jun 14, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by Marc Grahamsworth

If you're buying from EB, your friends could always tell them to reserve/order a copy for them and they'd be more than willing to do so

. Alternatively, there are online stores that sell Guild Wars as well (http://www.gamewarehouse.com.au is one of them), although considering GW is selling at 20% off at EB atm (i.e. AUD$72), it's probably best they get it from there

.

It is? Awesome, I'll have to pass the word on. I'm sick of waiting for them to get it ^^

Sarah Mengorran · Jun 14, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36

I've found this whole 'eb exclusive' thing is a lie perpetuated by eb to stop people from looking elsewhere.

I got my copy from Games Wizards on release day, as did my friend on the other side of the state. They still have stock, too, because everyone thinks it's an EB exclusive.

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 14, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19

lol. Yeah was wondering if what they were saying was true or not. Sounded a bit dodgy

. We don't have Game Wizards here in WA (at least I've never heard of it) - so our only real option is EB or the main department stores (e.g. Harvey Norman, Myer Megamart, Target, K-Mart, etc.).

That's if we're not buying online

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shinseikaze · Jun 14, 2005, 09:36 AM // 09:36

would be kool if all Aussies form or join 1 guild

Sarah Mengorran · Jun 14, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Well, for what it's worth, My guild is an aussie guild. Currently we have 5 members, we're all intelligent, thoughtful gamers.

Send me a message in game if you're interested.

If the mods deem this as spamming, feel free to delete

Arithon · Jun 14, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34

How about all the pplz that are from Australia that posted on here all join up and form one guild.

That could be a start of something.

But I agree that we don't really have any Australian guilds that are even large enough to compete in PVP and GVG.

Melchiah · Jun 15, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

Meh, I joined a Guild that makes me feel happy and welcome. I like the idea of a massive Australian Guild, that sounds pretty cool though. The Guild I am with now is everything I could ask for.

I'd like to see for once " 'Aussie Guild' has won the battle in the hall of heroes and keeps the favour of the gods for Australia", that'd be nice one day.

Considering how big of a country we are, it's a shame to not see our name spread around a little more in these online games. I would like a server for australia. THat would hae been nice. meh, oh well. I'll have to stick with the american servers, i guess if it wasn't for that, I would never have met the awesome bunch that I am with now for my guild...

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 16, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Melchiah

Meh, I joined a Guild that makes me feel happy and welcome. I like the idea of a massive Australian Guild, that sounds pretty cool though. The Guild I am with now is everything I could ask for.

I'd like to see for once " 'Aussie Guild' has won the battle in the hall of heroes and keeps the favour of the gods for Australia", that'd be nice one day.

Considering how big of a country we are, it's a shame to not see our name spread around a little more in these online games. I would like a server for australia. THat would hae been nice. meh, oh well. I'll have to stick with the american servers, i guess if it wasn't for that, I would never have met the awesome bunch that I am with now for my guild...

"Big" in terms of land area, small in terms of population

- we've only got 1/10 the population that the US has... although apparently we have the highest number of people to computers ratio in the world (i.e. a lot of people have access to a computer here)

Rieselle · Jun 16, 2005, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by Marc Grahamsworth

"Big" in terms of land area, small in terms of population

- we've only got 1/10 the population that the US has... although apparently we have the highest number of people to computers ratio in the world (i.e. a lot of people have access to a computer here)

Although I think the ratio of broadband connections to people is higher elsewhere - Sth Korea maybe?

Marc Grahamsworth · Jun 16, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Oh defnitely. I was in the Netherlands at one stage and basically EVERYWHERE has access to cable and DSL (AFAIK) - and it was pretty damn rare to see anyone on 56k (actually the lowest connection speed I ever saw was 64k). Whereas here in Perth for example, there are still some suburbs which haven't even had the infrastructure set up for ADSL

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Jun 12, 2005, 08:51 AM // 08:51	#1
Rieselle Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Profession: E/Rt	Do Australian Guilds kinda suck? Hiya... I've been looking around the site for an Australian Guild to join, yet it seems they are all quite small, and many aren't that interested in GvG either. It's their preference, but I'm a little dissappointed that so many people want a guild for "their identity", and thus there's a lot of little "friend's guilds" floating around. I would have preferred if most of the Australian guilds merged to form a largish guild of 60+ australian members or so... and planning to compete in the top 1000 or something... (if such a guild exists, please pm me!). It seems like most of the guilds I've joined generally have like 3-4 people on at any one night, of a wide level range so we can't play together.... it'd be nice if they had enough members to have at least a couple of full groups on during australian evening times most days, so I'd have a good chance of doing something with guildmates most of the time. Ah well. Maybe I need to work harder to entice my friends away from WoW... Last edited by Rieselle; Jun 12, 2005 at 09:02 AM // 09:02..

Jun 12, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13	#2
Sarah Mengorran Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Children of the Dirt Profession: N/E	I agree. I ended up forming a 'little friends guild' as you put it when i couldn't find a large dedicated aussie guild. I'd be willing to join one (and bring my current members too) if you find one! Id: Sarah Mengorran

Jun 12, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#3
Marc Grahamsworth Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Guild of Choice Profession: Me/Mo	This may change over time. You have to realise that Guild Wars isn't as widely available over here in Australia as other countries (i.e. you either buy it from EB as an "exclusive" or you order it online) limiting the number of players. As you mentioned, WoW on the other hand has a much bigger following over here in Australia, and it'd be quite hard to vie them away from it. Especially if those gamers are MMORPG-purists (since GW isn't a "pure" MMORPG per se). Personally, I like the idea of small guilds of friends - I've still yet to get any members (lol) but one day, I'd like to have a guild that is more of a community to have fun foremost with competition against other guilds coming secondary. However, my opinion might change, since I'm still playing through PvE. A big elite PvP Australian guild would be nice and isn't unreasonable. However, if there was one, I wouldn't be interested. I prefer to lead guilds/clans rather than follow someone else.

Jun 12, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#4
Ascension Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]	Did you ever consider forming an Australian group within an existing American/European guild? I'd love to have 60+ Australians/New Zealanders in my guild Think of the possibilities ... An Auzzie, a Canuk, and a Cowboy (Texan's rock, I have to say!) walk into a bar ... I'm aiming for, one day, a massive group of people from every area of the earth. Some Australians would be MUCH welcomed. Contact me for details, as I have plenty to give! May you see the light, and stay away from the darkness (!@#$ WoW!), Ascension

Jun 13, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13	#5
Rieselle Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Profession: E/Rt	Yeah, currently I'm in a multi-country guild, however Australians are spread too thinly to have many people to party with during australian evening hours. As for the poster who preferred to lead his own guild, well, that's fine, but everyone wants to be leader and no-one member, which is why we have so many little "me too!" guilds Then again - if I could find 10 or so friends who played at -exactly the same times- as me, then I wouldn't need a big guild either

Jun 13, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#6
Ascension Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]	You should see the hours some people pull in gaming, it's easy to match up with anyone!

Jun 13, 2005, 10:37 AM // 10:37	#9
Lalii Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Fight Under No King Profession: N/E	I have to agree with the fact that it's not easily available over here yet. I'm in a tiny guild that more of my friends will be joining once they get the game (once our city stops being sold out!) but until then it's kinda hard to find anyone else.

Jun 14, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#12
Sarah Mengorran Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Children of the Dirt Profession: N/E	I've found this whole 'eb exclusive' thing is a lie perpetuated by eb to stop people from looking elsewhere. I got my copy from Games Wizards on release day, as did my friend on the other side of the state. They still have stock, too, because everyone thinks it's an EB exclusive.

Jun 14, 2005, 09:19 AM // 09:19	#13
Marc Grahamsworth Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Guild of Choice Profession: Me/Mo	lol. Yeah was wondering if what they were saying was true or not. Sounded a bit dodgy . We don't have Game Wizards here in WA (at least I've never heard of it) - so our only real option is EB or the main department stores (e.g. Harvey Norman, Myer Megamart, Target, K-Mart, etc.). That's if we're not buying online .

Jun 14, 2005, 09:36 AM // 09:36	#14
shinseikaze Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dark Side Of The Force Profession: E/Mo	would be kool if all Aussies form or join 1 guild

Jun 14, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#15
Sarah Mengorran Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Children of the Dirt Profession: N/E	Well, for what it's worth, My guild is an aussie guild. Currently we have 5 members, we're all intelligent, thoughtful gamers. Send me a message in game if you're interested. If the mods deem this as spamming, feel free to delete

Jun 14, 2005, 11:34 PM // 23:34	#16
Arithon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	How about all the pplz that are from Australia that posted on here all join up and form one guild. That could be a start of something. But I agree that we don't really have any Australian guilds that are even large enough to compete in PVP and GVG.

Jun 15, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06	#17
Melchiah Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Western Australia Guild: OCAU Profession: Mo/Me	Meh, I joined a Guild that makes me feel happy and welcome. I like the idea of a massive Australian Guild, that sounds pretty cool though. The Guild I am with now is everything I could ask for. I'd like to see for once " 'Aussie Guild' has won the battle in the hall of heroes and keeps the favour of the gods for Australia", that'd be nice one day. Considering how big of a country we are, it's a shame to not see our name spread around a little more in these online games. I would like a server for australia. THat would hae been nice. meh, oh well. I'll have to stick with the american servers, i guess if it wasn't for that, I would never have met the awesome bunch that I am with now for my guild...

Jun 16, 2005, 04:44 AM // 04:44	#20
Marc Grahamsworth Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Guild: Guild of Choice Profession: Me/Mo	Oh defnitely. I was in the Netherlands at one stage and basically EVERYWHERE has access to cable and DSL (AFAIK) - and it was pretty damn rare to see anyone on 56k (actually the lowest connection speed I ever saw was 64k). Whereas here in Perth for example, there are still some suburbs which haven't even had the infrastructure set up for ADSL .